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Km byl Gandalf
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:05 pm   Km był Gandalf

Nie wiem , czy ten temat już jest , jeżeli tak , to będzię zamknięty :)

Co myślicie o Gandalfie ???

Moja opinia o Gandalfie jest taka.Gandalf Szary, czarodziej, mag, mędrzec podróżujący po całej włości, nikt tak naprawdę nie wiedział ,kiedy przybędzie do Włości, a kiedy był, był bardzo krótko i nikt nie wiedział kiedy pojedzie podróżować w dalekie strony.Bardzo lubiły go dzieci, kiedy przybywał do shire, dzieci tylko czekały, zeby pokazał im jakieś sztuczki np:fajerwerki.Był bardzo lubiany przez Hobbitów z shire i nie tylko.W pierwszej części jak juz wszyscy wiemy, na końcu pierwszej części Gandalf zginĄł żeby uratować drużynę pierścienia oraz najważniejsze było dla niego żeby Frodo (powiernik pierścienia) poszedł do Mordoru po to żeby rzucił pierścień w przepaść.Nie wiem jak wy, ale jak jeszcze nie było drugiej części myślałem że Gandalfa nie będzie , ale w drugiej części stał się dwa razy silniejszy, niz był dotychczas Smile

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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:03 pm   

Gandalf był jednym z dwóch najważniejszych Istarich,zwanych przez ludzi czrodziejami.Najdawniejsze jego imię brzmiało Olorin("Olorinem zwano mnie za niepamiętnych czasów mojej młodości na dalekim zachodzie"-Dwie Wieże.IV,5)
Wśród elfów znany był jako Mithrandir(tzn.Szary Pielgrzym),ludzie i hobbici nazywali go właśnie Gandalfem.Jak podaje Silmarillion pojawił się wraz z innymi Mędrcami w Śródziemiu "kiedy pierwsze cienie padły na mroczną puszczę".Przybyli zza Morza,mięli za zadanie"przeciwstawić się władzy Saurona,gdyby Nieprzyjaciel znowu podniósł głowę,a także pobudzać elfów,ludzi i wszelkie istoty dobrej woli do mężnych czynów."
Gandalf szczególnie przyjażnił się z Elrondem i elfami.nie mieszkał nigdzie na stałe.Był zaliczany do Majarów.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:29 pm   

Keira wrote:
To jest forum, a nie Encyklopedia Śródziemia. Temat "Kim był..." nie służy dyskusji, jest stricte odwtórczy.
IMHO, powinien iść do kasacji, ale skonsultuję to z Galadem ;P

p.s. wygasnie


To nie jest Encyklopedia , tylko postać o , której piszemy , więc nie rozumiem dlaczego , ma wygasnąć ten temat Pzd. Ale ja oczywiście nie mam tu nic do gadania :)
 
     
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:58 pm   

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Dates Immortal. In Middle-earth c. III 1000 to 29 September III 3021
Race Ainur
Division Maiar of Manw?Ť and Varda1
Order Istari (Wizards)
Other Names Inc??nus, Mithrandir, Olórin, Tharkûn
Titles Elf of the Wand, The Grey, Grey Pilgrim, Grey Wanderer, Stormcrow, The White
Meaning 'Wand Elf' (but note that this name was given mistakenly by Men; Gandalf is a Maia, not an Elf)
Pronunciation ga'ndalf
(A note in Appendix E of The Lord of the Rings that final 'f' should be pronounced 'v' leads some to mispronounce this name 'gandalv'. 'Gandalf' is not an Elvish name, however, and this rule does not apply)



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In origin a Maia of Manw?Ť and Varda, Gandalf came to the northwest of Middle-earth after a thousand years of the Third Age had passed, with four others of his order. At the Grey Havens, C?­rdan entrusted him with the Red Ring, Narya, to aid him in contesting the will of Sauron.

Gandalf wandered widely in Middle-earth, and learned much of its races and peoples. Unlike his fellow Wizards Saruman and Radagast, he never settled in a single place. He was instrumental in the victory of the War of the Ring, but during that conflict he battled with a Balrog, and though he was ultimately victorious, his spirit left his body, but was sent back to Middle-earth to complete his task.

Gandalf finally left Middle-earth in 3021 (Third Age), when he departed over the sea with the Ring-bearers.
Arrival in Middle-earth, c. III 1000

The Wizards arrived in Middle-earth after the end of the first millennium of the Third Age. They were sent by the Valar to aid Elves and Men, but none knew this but C?­rdan the Shipwright, Lord of the Grey Havens where their ships put in. Though Saruman was at that time the acknowledged leader of the Wizards, C?­rdan saw that Gandalf was in fact the greater, and secretly gave him the Red Ring Narya to aid him in his quest.
Exploration of Middle-earth, c. III 1000 to III 2463

For almost 1,500 years, Gandalf wandered the northern and western regions of Middle-earth, learning of its lands and cultures. He was closest in friendship with the Elves, and especially Elrond, who had learned of his origins from C?­rdan.
The White Council, III 2463 to III 2953

At almost the same time as Gandalf had arrived in Middle-earth, a dark power had appeared in southern Mirkwood, at the evil place known as Dol Guldur. After a thousand years of his wanderings, Gandalf went there and drove the darkness into the east for a while. Soon it returned, and in 2463 (Third Age), the greatest among Wizards and Elves formed a White Council, with Gandalf as a prominent member, to counter the growing threat.

In 2850, he revisited Dol Guldur, to find that the power that held it had grown indeed during the eight hundred years since his last visit. He recognised the dark power now as Sauron returned, and escaped to inform the White Council. Before he escaped, though, he found Thr??in II broken in the pits of Dol Guldur, and though Thr??in died before Gandalf could help him, he did surrender a map and a key into the Wizard's keeping.
The Year III 2941

2941 was an important year for Gandalf. Not only did he take part in the White Council's expulsion of the Necromancer from Dol Guldur, but he also arranged for a party of Dwarves, accompanied by Bilbo Baggins, to travel to their ancient home of Erebor and free it from the dragon Smaug.
Gandalf and the Hobbits

The Hobbits first appeared in the records of Men and Elves shortly after the arrival of the Wizards, but of all the Wise, Gandalf was the only one to pay them great heed. After the foundation of the Shire, he would visit periodically and was responsible for '...quiet lads and lasses going off into the Blue for mad adventures' (The Hobbit, Chapter 1, An Unexpected Party). Given this description, we are forced to wonder whether he had a hand in the exploits of Hildifons and Isengar Took, both of whom are recorded as having become involved in adventures of this kind.

Of all the hobbit families, Gandalf seems to have been most closely associated with the Tooks; he was a close friend of Gerontius, the Old Took (Frodo Baggins' great-grandfather), and was said to have given him a gift of magical diamond studs, which fastened and unfastened on command. After Gerontius' death in 2920 (Third Age), he was not seen in the Shire for more than twenty years, until he returned with Thorin and the Dwarves to involve Bilbo Baggins in the Quest of Erebor.
Gandalf’s Appearance

Like all the Wizards, Gandalf had the appearance of an old man, who grew old slowly with the passage of the centuries. His hair was white, and his long white beard grew down below his waist. His eyebrows were particularly noticeable; they were so long and bushy that they stuck out from beneath the rim of his hat.

He dressed in a long grey cloak, which is perhaps the origin of his title 'The Grey'. He is also described as wearing a tall shady-brimmed pointed blue hat, a silver scarf, and long black boots. He carried at all times a spiked staff.
The Magic of Gandalf

Tolkien at no point defines what the limits of Gandalf's magic were. As a Maia, he had many natural abilities that would seem magical to mortal races, but he also had a great store of knowledge of more 'mechanical' magic, worked through spells and incantations, and especially through the agency of his staff. It is clear that he had far greater power, especially after his return as Gandalf the White, than he ever displayed in Middle-earth.

His magical powers seem to be particularly associated with fire, a fact that is perhaps related to the Ring of Fire, Narya, that he bore.

A Gandalf Miscellany
Gandalf adopted the habit of pipe-smoking from the Hobbits. He often used his magical arts while smoking; he could change the colour of his smoke-rings, or send them in any direction he pleased.
Gandalf's preferred drink was red wine.



treść pochodzi ze strony http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/ gorąco polecam, jeśli ktoś jeszcze nie zna.

i tym samym temat możemy zamknąć. wtórując Kei, nie ma tu nic do dyskusji, jak np. w przypadku Toma Bombadila. wszystko mamy wyłożone jak na dłoni, nic nie trzeba sobie dopowiadać, wyjaśniać. a nawet jeśli trzeba, to proszę o zmienę nazwy i treści tematu.

pozdrawiam

ps, nadgorliwy mogą np. przetłumaczyć powyższy tekst na polski, może nie wszyscy rozumieją go.
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:49 pm   

Spoko rozumiem Pzd :)
 
     
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